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Фелка, че ты не видел, внимательней смотри, не видел он...

Еще несколько раздач:
1) Насколько легко сбрасывать сет тузов на 3-флеш доске?

$0.1/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG DeJakob ($25.00)
UTG+1 boringbrett1717 ($11.90)
CO chasethis26 ($7.00)
BTN StReEt916 ($9.10)
SB belgam ($47.55)
BB Hero ($22.10)
[chasethis26 posted $0.25]

Pre-flop: ($0.60, 6 players) Hero is BB 2 6 A A
1 fold, boringbrett1717 calls $0.25, chasethis26 checks, StReEt916 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.35, boringbrett1717 calls $1.10, chasethis26 calls $1.10, StReEt916 calls $1.10

Flop: 3 A T ($5.50, 4 players)
Hero bets $5.50, boringbrett1717 calls $5.50, 2 folds

Turn: 6 ($16.50, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $15.25, boringbrett1717 calls $5.05

River: 7 ($36.80, 2 players)

Final Pot: $26.60
boringbrett1717 shows: 6 J T Q
Hero shows: 2 6 A A

2) Легкий фолд? Опп любит блефануть слегка, но в шортстека это обычно не делают ведь?
$0.25/$0.5 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG leosfire420 ($107.20)
UTG+1 Hero ($19.10)
CO DingDonggggg ($53.70)
BTN harryschmann ($13.80)
SB StLPride ($138.20)
BB AustinChao ($187.50)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 J A K A
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.75, DingDonggggg calls $1.75, 2 folds, AustinChao calls $1.25

Flop: 5 K 7 ($5.50, 3 players)
AustinChao checks, Hero bets $5.50, DingDonggggg folds, AustinChao calls $5.50

Turn: 7 ($16.50, 2 players)
AustinChao bets $16.50, Hero folds

Final Pot: $16.50

AustinChao wins $32.20 ( won +$8.45 )
Hero lost -$7.25
DingDonggggg lost -$1.75



3) А что насчет сэта на стрит доске?

$0.1/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($9.70)
UTG+1 DeJakob ($25.00)
CO boringbrett1717 ($19.55)
BTN chasethis26 ($12.30)
SB StReEt916 ($8.70)
BB belgam ($45.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is UTG 9 6 4 9
Hero calls $0.25, 2 folds, chasethis26 calls $0.25, StReEt916 calls $0.15, belgam checks

Flop: 9 5 6 ($1, 4 players)
StReEt916 checks, belgam checks, Hero bets $1, chasethis26 raises to $2, StReEt916 folds, belgam folds, Hero raises to $7, chasethis26 goes all-in $12.05, Hero calls $2.45

Turn: 2 ($22.50, 2 players)

River: Q ($22.50, 2 players)

Final Pot: $19.90
chasethis26 shows: 7 A K 8
Hero shows: 9 6 4 9

chasethis26 wins $21.55 ( won +$9.25 )
StReEt916 lost -$0.25
belgam lost -$0.25
Hero lost -$9.70

4) С оппом из 2й раздачи.

$0.25/$0.5 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG harryschmann ($21.95)
UTG+1 StLPride ($133.30)
CO AustinChao ($171.30)
BTN kaffekonge ($46.35)
SB Hero ($16.35)
BB DingDonggggg ($59.55)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is SB 6 T A A
2 folds, AustinChao calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2, DingDonggggg says "sorry", DingDonggggg says "forgot", DingDonggggg says "3 betting every hand oop is standard for monkeys like u", 1 fold, AustinChao calls $1.50

Flop: 6 J 6 ($4.50, 2 players)
StLPride says "if you cant handle aggression i suggest you move down to the bottom stakes", Hero bets $4.50, AustinChao raises to $18, Hero calls $9.85

Turn: 8 ($36.85, 2 players)

River: 9 ($36.85, 2 players)

Final Pot: $33.20
Hero shows: 6 T A A
AustinChao shows: 2 K 3 K

AustinChao wins $35.20 ( won +$15.20 )
Hero lost -$16.35



Буду благодарен за комментарии.
Борьба с в себе не останавливается ни на минуту.

мне кажется, что сеты на флопе на стритовой и флешовой досках имеют несколько вариантов решения
1) мы банкуем сразу и готовы отдаться
2) мы выжидаем натса

и как мне кажется выбор вариантов зависит от стратегии игры и банкролла

Как обычно, заливаю в Омаху
Походу, я безнадежен

$0.05/$0.1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Satori1971 ($8.75)
UTG+1 nicole1044 ($12.45)
CO dulle11 ($27.45)
BTN STACEY7522 ($30.30)
SB Hero ($12.15)
BB MRSsg ($20.90)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB 7 A T A
Satori1971 raises to $0.35, nicole1044 calls $0.35, dulle11 calls $0.35, STACEY7522 calls $0.35, Hero raises to $2.20, 1 fold, Satori1971 calls $1.85, nicole1044 folds, dulle11 calls $1.85, STACEY7522 calls $1.85

Flop: 9 8 J ($9.25, 4 players)
Hero bets $9.25, Satori1971 goes all-in $6.55, dulle11 calls $9.25, STACEY7522 goes all-in $28.10, Hero goes all-in $0.70, dulle11 goes all-in $16

Turn: J ($79.10, 4 players)

River: Q ($79.10, 4 players)

Final Pot: $76.25
Satori1971 shows: J T Q Q
dulle11 shows: 9 7 6 9
STACEY7522 shows: K T Q 8
Hero shows: 7 A T A

Satori1971 wins $33.45 ( won +$24.70 )
dulle11 wins $40.80 ( won +$13.35 )
STACEY7522 wins $2.85 ( lost -$27.45 )
nicole1044 lost -$0.35
Hero lost -$12.15

ужасная сдача в плане подстав

1. Бетать 6-high флеш в троих это сильно. Лучше бы перешел в разумный чек-колл и попытался докупиться до фула.
2. Нормальный фолд
3. Фолд префлоп, какой флоп ты хочешь увидеть, чтобы он тебя порадовал? 78хх? тогда десятка будет той картой, на которой ты попадешь в неприятности.
4. Все хорошо. Напиши нотс на оппа что он не только агрессивно дро играет, что и прочиталось в общем-то, но и то, что он не натс дро играет агрессивно.

поделюсь своей забавной)

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Hero (CO): $84.30
BTN: $22.80
SB: $16.00
BB: $69.00
UTG: $53.85

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with A J A 4
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, SB raises to $7.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $24.75, BTN calls $21.05 all in, SB calls $8.50 all in

Flop: ($62.10) 2 5 K

Turn: ($62.10) 4

River: ($62.10) 7

Final Pot: $62.10
Hero shows A J A 4 (a pair of Aces)
BTN shows 6 6 3 T (a flush, King high)
SB shows K 8 K T (three of a kind, Kings)
BTN wins $13.00
BTN wins $46.10
(Rake: $3.00)

так фт риггед же ))))))

goodfellow:так фт риггед же ))))))

за последние сутки я сказал эту фразу раз 20)
просто до смешного бывает

Пробую, как purity, с 40бб стэком заходить.
Так вроде интереснее. Но что в таких раздачах делать?
Как не дать дотягивать оппам недофлеши и сэты левые?

№1. Вы вообще часто стриты сбрасываете на флопе?

$0.05/$0.1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($5.05)
CO oblomov123 ($3.90)
BTN arnorfreyr ($6.95)
SB DOnkEY_HeRo ($10.00)
BB Vegas_Yummy-T ($10.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is UTG T Q K Q
Hero raises to $0.35, 2 folds, DOnkEY_HeRo calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: 9 K J ($0.80, 2 players)
DOnkEY_HeRo checks, Hero bets $0.80, DOnkEY_HeRo raises to $3.20, Hero goes all-in $4.70, DOnkEY_HeRo calls $1.50

Turn: 9 ($10.20, 2 players)

River: 8 ($10.20, 2 players)

Final Pot: $10.20
DOnkEY_HeRo shows: J Q J 4
Hero shows: T Q K Q

DOnkEY_HeRo wins $9.20 ( won +$4.15 )
Hero lost -$5.05

№2. А как бы в этой раздаче сыграли?

$0.05/$0.1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($11.05)
CO racer33 ($1.85)
BTN Besusieni ($14.25)
SB kackee ($9.20)
BB jeffmoon ($2.80)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is UTG A K A J
Hero raises to $0.35, racer33 calls $0.35, Besusieni calls $0.35, 2 folds

Flop: 4 5 6 ($1.20, 3 players)
Hero checks, racer33 checks, Besusieni bets $1.20, Hero folds, racer33 folds

Final Pot: $1.20

Besusieni wins $2.30 ( won +$0.75 )
Hero lost -$0.35
racer33 lost -$0.35

старший стрит играем на стек на флопе точно)

пара сдач)

1) тут всё как всегда в софте фт
паса нету ни у кого - в смисле, что ни я, ни опп не могли фолдить имхо

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
BB: $32.75
UTG: $14.45
MP: $29.20
CO: $26.30
Hero (BTN): $28.65
SB: $13.85

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with 7 5 8 8
1 fold, MP raises to $0.85, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, BB raises to $2.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.90, SB calls $1.90

Flop: ($9.10) 9 T 4 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $6.75, Hero raises to $25.90 all in, SB folds, BB calls $19.15

Turn: ($60.90) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($60.90) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $60.90
BB shows T J T J (three of a kind, Tens)
Hero shows 7 5 8 8 (a flush, Ace high)
Hero wins $57.90
(Rake: $3.00)

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2)Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
BB: $27.40
UTG: $13.10
MP: $28.00
CO: $25.00
Hero (BTN): $56.75
SB: $10.55

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with 4 7 T J
2 folds, CO calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($1.00) 3 K 4 (4 players)
SB bets $1, BB folds, CO folds, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($3.00) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $3, Hero calls $3

River: ($9.00) J (2 players)
SB bets $6.30 all in, Hero calls $6.30

Final Pot: $21.60
Hero shows 4 7 T J (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
SB shows 5 T 9 9 (a pair of Nines)
Hero wins $20.55
(Rake: $1.05)

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3)снова мегариггед рум передаёт приветы

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
BTN: $31.05
SB: $12.60
BB: $37.35
UTG: $23.40
Hero (MP): $56.85
CO: $21.90

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with J 8 J 8
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($3.65) T 6 7 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($3.65) 9 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.65, CO calls $3.65, BTN folds, SB folds

River: ($10.95) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8.50, Hero calls $8.50

Final Pot: $27.95
Hero mucks J 8 J 8
CO shows T J 7 8 (a full house, Sevens full of Tens)
CO wins $26.60
(Rake: $1.35)

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4)если у вас сет против готового стрита и вы играете на фт, то вы выиграете

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
SB: $24.90
BB: $13.40
UTG: $11.60
MP: $48.70
Hero (CO): $45.75
BTN: $35.40

Hero posts a big blind ($0.25)

Pre Flop: ($0.70) Hero is CO with 9 T 4 T
UTG calls $0.25, MP raises to $1.45, Hero calls $1.20, BTN calls $1.45, 1 fold, BB calls $1.20, UTG calls $1.20

Flop: ($7.45) 7 2 J (5 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $7.45, MP folds, Hero calls $7.45, BTN folds, BB folds

Turn: ($22.35) 8 (2 players)
UTG bets $2.70 all in, Hero calls $2.70

River: ($27.75) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $27.75
UTG shows 3 7 7 5 (a full house, Sevens full of Twos)
Hero shows 9 T 4 T (a straight, Jack high)
UTG wins $26.40
(Rake: $1.35)

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5) Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
UTG: $28.70
CO: $17.25
BTN: $27.55
Hero (SB): $34.30
BB: $34.05

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 4 6 J Q
UTG raises to $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.40, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.25) 2 5 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.45) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $2.45, Hero raises to $4.90, UTG calls $2.45

River: ($12.25) K (2 players)
Hero bets $12.25, UTG calls $12.25

Final Pot: $36.75
UTG mucks 5 A A 7
Hero shows 4 6 J Q (a straight, Six high)
Hero wins $34.95
(Rake: $1.80)

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6) Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BB: $32.65
UTG: $79.80
Hero (CO): $18.10
BTN: $6.60
SB: $30.90

Hero posts a big blind ($0.25)

Pre Flop: ($0.60) Hero is CO with Q 3 3 T
UTG raises to $1.10, Hero calls $0.85, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.55) 9 3 J (2 players)
UTG bets $2, Hero raises to $8.55, UTG raises to $28.20, Hero calls $8.45 all in

Turn: ($36.55) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($36.55) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $36.55
UTG shows K K A 5 (a pair of Kings)
Hero shows Q 3 3 T (three of a kind, Threes)
Hero wins $34.75
(Rake: $1.80)


п.с. вроде должен быть +
а нет, сессия минусовая

хм, для все кроме третьей пасс префлоп

ЕМАНАРОД!

$200/$400 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN Ziigmund ($286895.00)
BB ahtata ($238399.00)

Pre-flop: ($600, 2 players)
Ziigmund raises to $1,200, ahtata calls $800

Flop: Q K 8 ($2,400, 2 players)
ahtata bets $2,400, Ziigmund raises to $9,600, ahtata raises to $31,200, Ziigmund calls $21,600

Turn: 2 ($64,800, 2 players)
ahtata bets $64,800, Ziigmund calls $64,800

River: J ($194,400, 2 players)
ahtata goes all-in $141,199, Ziigmund calls $141,199

Final Pot: $476,798
ahtata shows: K 2 A K
Ziigmund shows: J 7 T A

Ziigmund wins $476,797.50 ( won +$238,398.50 )
ahtata lost -$238,398.50

Атату ваще не прет.
Пора ему сбрасывать стриты на флопе.

$500/$1000 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG sunra18 ($9997.00)
UTG+1 Sirens ($19500.00)
CO ahtata ($371048.00)
BTN Gus Hansen ($39000.00)
SB durrrr ($260169.50)
BB OMGClayAiken ($214994.00)

Pre-flop: ($1,500, 6 players)
sunra18 raises to $3,500, 1 fold, ahtata calls $3,500, Gus Hansen calls $3,500, durrrr raises to $6,500, 1 fold, sunra18 goes all-in $9,997, ahtata calls $6,497, Gus Hansen calls $6,497, durrrr raises to $24,998, ahtata calls $15,001, Gus Hansen calls $15,001

Flop: Q T J ($85,991, 4 players)
durrrr bets $29,600, ahtata raises to $174,791, 1 fold, durrrr goes all-in $235,171.50, ahtata calls $60,380.50

Turn: J ($556,334, 3 players)

River: 2 ($556,334, 3 players)

Final Pot: $556,334
ahtata shows: 3 5 A K
durrrr shows: Q K J T
sunra18 shows: 2 9 7 8

durrrr wins $556,331 ( won +$296,161.50 )
ahtata lost -$260000.00
Gus Hansen lost -$24000.00
sunra18 lost -$9000.00

Вдохновился я раздачами от монстров на 200/400 и сел чуток полудоманить.
Вот 2 раздачи подряд.

Даже не знаю, зачем я тут колл на префлопе нажал.

$0.25/$0.5 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Koalizer ($40.00)
UTG+1 RudiKing ($136.95)
CO Hero ($14.15)
BTN MrRool ($65.15)
SB kurtis1225 ($33.85)
BB Michael Wittman ($48.15)
[Koalizer posted $0.5]

Pre-flop: ($1.25, 6 players) Hero is CO 3 7 9 A
Koalizer checks, RudiKing raises to $2.25, Hero calls $2.25, 1 fold, kurtis1225 calls $2, 1 fold, Koalizer folds

Flop: 8 J T ($7.75, 3 players)
kurtis1225 checks, RudiKing bets $3.85, Hero goes all-in $11.90, kurtis1225 calls $11.90, RudiKing calls $8.05

Turn: 6 ($43.45, 3 players)
kurtis1225 checks, RudiKing checks

River: 7 ($43.45, 3 players)
kurtis1225 checks, RudiKing checks

Final Pot: $43.45
RudiKing shows: Q Q T J
Hero shows: 3 7 9 A
kurtis1225 shows: 2 9 2 Q

Hero wins $41.30 ( won +$27.15 )
RudiKing lost -$14.15
kurtis1225 lost -$14.15
Koalizer lost -$0.50

Как же я люблю бэкдорчеги

$0.25/$0.5 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG RudiKing ($122.80)
UTG+1 Hero ($41.30)
CO MrRool ($65.15)
BTN kurtis1225 ($19.70)
SB Michael Wittman ($47.65)
BB Koalizer ($39.50)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 5 Q 4 A
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.75, MrRool calls $1.75, kurtis1225 calls $1.75, 1 fold, Koalizer calls $1.25

Flop: 7 A 8 ($7.25, 4 players)
Koalizer checks, Hero bets $4, MrRool calls $4, kurtis1225 calls $4, Koalizer folds

Turn: 6 ($19.25, 3 players)
Hero bets $19.25, MrRool goes all-in $59.40, kurtis1225 goes all-in $13.95, Hero goes all-in $16.30

River: J ($128.15, 3 players)

Final Pot: $104.30
Hero shows: 5 Q 4 A
MrRool shows: 8 9 J T
kurtis1225 shows: K 5 9 J

Hero wins $101.30 ( won +$60.00 )
MrRool wins $23.85 ( lost -$41.30 )
kurtis1225 lost -$19.70
Koalizer lost -$1.75

Как бы вы поступили?

Parimatch Korenovsk (No DP) 0.20/0.40, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker
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saw flop | saw showdown

Button Hero ($25.30)
SB ($13.25)
BB BB ($19.55)
UTG ($17.73)
UTG+1 UTG+1 ($22.65)
CO CO ($4.50)

Preflop: Hero is on the Button with T K A 4
1 fold, UTG+1 calls 0.20, CO calls 0.20, Hero calls 0.20, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop (0.90) A K 9
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Hero bets 0.90, BB calls 0.90, 2 folds.

Turn (2.70) 7
BB checks, Hero bets 2.70, BB raises to 10.80, 1 fold

Я бы ставить не стал на флопе и терне.. 2 пары в омахе далеко не натс, у нас доездов на дро нету, не вижу смысл раздувать банк с двумя парами... Как сыграно фолд, если опп не полный морон.

Fanat, сыграл бы также, паснул тёрн