Vigorish

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Привет!
Смотрю, забросил ты свой дневник.
Просто встретил тебя на нл50, решил поинтересоваться как дела?

*тревожно* Фух...вроде отпустило...
Жесткий даунсвинг, очень жесткий. Залил половину банкрола. Красная линия ЕВ первый раз за всю игру на Го ушла в минус. Так это еще пол беды.
Впал в тилт и полез отгрываться на нл50. Ну вот нахрена?
Но вчера был первый плюсовый день, будем надеяться, что это первый шаг к выздоровлению.
Прилагаю график страданий

Руллет:Просто встретил тебя на нл50, решил поинтересоваться как дела?

Руллет, спасибо, что не забываешь. Не писал, чтоб не ныть как мне плохо, и как меня "любит" Го. Про нл50, как выше написал, это был позорный заход с целью "отыграться"
У меня к тебе вопрос: у меня возникло стойкое ощущение, что блеф на ривере имеет место быть через-чур часто. Причем и у регов и у рыбы. Так ли это, или это связано с моим стриком и оппам просто доезжало к риверу?

Believe_Me:*тревожно* Фух...вроде отпустило...

После расслабляющего января, в течении которого фишки играющими раздаются достаточно свободно, наступает отрезвляющий февраль. Что же касается игры в марте, то она сродни игре в августе… отскочить даже символическим плюсом уже неплохо…
Я за первые пять дней этого месяца ушёл в минус на 24 баина

Believe_Me:...У меня к тебе вопрос: у меня возникло стойкое ощущение, что блеф на ривере имеет место быть через-чур часто. Причем и у регов и у рыбы. Так ли это, или это связано с моим стриком и оппам просто доезжало к риверу?

Ближе к концу любого месяца, игроков блефующих на ривере становится меньше. Ставка на ривере, даже от среднего рега, это как правило добор/доезд. Вколить плюсово ререйз на ривере можно только имея жёсткий нотс на опа…
В общем без нотса, в таких ситуациях, фолд меньшее из зол… что же касается динамики игры за конкретным столом, то это вообще штука обманчивая.

Вот такие у меня мысли

Believe_Me:Russich, согласен. ГСЧ у GoPlay показался адекватным, думаю 15 БИ для NL4 нормально. А дальше посмотрим...
Как думаешь сколько надо, чтобы считать NL10 битым?

Гвавно ГСЧ на Гей клубе
Hand,"Times","Win %","Amount Won","$/Hand","BB/Hand","Blind","CCPF","VP$IP","W$WSF","PFR","RFI","LWPC","WTSD","W$SD"
AA,"87","87.36","$16.42","0.19","2.36","37","20.00","95.40","81.36","87.36","94.12","0.00","57.63","67.65"
AKs,"59","64.41","$0.56","0.01","0.12","23","57.14","96.61","52.27","81.36","100.00","7.14","61.36","51.85"
AKo,"179","74.86","$9.23","0.05","0.64","74","14.29","94.41","59.09","85.47","97.59","4.88","57.27","55.56"
AQs,"69","71.01","$1.91","0.03","0.35","32","50.00","95.65","62.22","82.61","93.94","0.00","64.44","55.17"
AQo,"164","64.63","$10.18","0.06","0.78","67","46.15","96.95","58.12","78.05","86.59","0.00","47.01","63.64"
AJs,"60","66.67","$5.45","0.09","1.14","26","75.00","96.67","57.78","78.33","84.00","0.00","68.89","67.74"
AJo,"174","65.52","$12.25","0.07","0.88","80","50.00","89.08","60.50","69.54","91.67","3.70","39.50","59.57"
ATs,"54","55.56","-$0.66","-0.01","-0.15","23","75.00","88.89","47.22","66.67","92.00","12.50","33.33","33.33"
ATo,"169","56.21","$3.82","0.02","0.28","83","38.46","84.02","52.63","65.68","85.53","33.33","36.84","42.86"
A9s,"66","59.09","$4.96","0.08","0.94","27","50.00","84.85","60.47","62.12","85.71","30.77","34.88","73.33"
A9o,"175","38.29","$1.78","0.01","0.13","72","7.14","60.57","52.63","40.00","61.04","43.75","40.00","52.63"
A8s,"59","38.98","-$0.10","-0.00","-0.02","19","40.00","77.97","41.46","55.93","66.67","18.18","43.90","44.44"
A8o,"203","33.99","-$2.08","-0.01","-0.13","87","0.00","56.65","47.31","40.89","54.46","32.50","33.33","45.16"
A7s,"45","55.56","$3.68","0.08","1.02","19","66.67","73.33","57.69","55.56","80.00","0.00","26.92","85.71"
A7o,"158","28.48","-$0.87","-0.01","-0.07","53","21.43","49.37","45.45","29.11","39.53","54.17","33.33","40.91"
A6s,"58","43.10","$1.08","0.02","0.23","25","40.00","65.52","40.00","43.10","65.52","50.00","37.14","53.85"
A6o,"169","19.53","-$3.28","-0.02","-0.24","69","16.67","41.42","37.50","21.30","31.25","32.35","32.81","47.62"
A5s,"47","31.91","-$0.14","-0.00","-0.04","17","33.33","70.21","33.33","40.43","48.00","60.00","25.93","57.14"
A5o,"171","15.20","-$0.07","0.00","-0.01","70","0.00","23.98","34.78","9.94","13.89","33.33","23.91","45.45"
A4s,"65","33.85","-$0.26","-0.00","-0.05","30","0.00","60.00","41.94","38.46","63.33","33.33","22.58","42.86"
A4o,"134","23.13","$0.84","0.01","0.08","54","0.00","32.09","47.50","17.91","29.51","33.33","25.00","50.00"
A3s,"60","33.33","$1.06","0.02","0.22","30","20.00","63.33","44.12","20.00","28.00","72.73","26.47","77.78"
A3o,"163","20.86","-$2.44","-0.01","-0.19","79","0.00","25.77","46.00","14.11","23.19","29.03","36.00","55.56"
A2s,"62","30.65","-$2.14","-0.03","-0.43","21","25.00","56.45","43.75","25.81","40.00","71.43","28.13","22.22"
A2o,"162","12.35","-$1.53","-0.01","-0.12","63","0.00","18.52","30.56","10.49","16.05","35.71","22.22","75.00"
KK,"90","85.56","$17.22","0.19","2.39","33","25.00","100.00","77.97","98.89","100.00","0.00","71.19","69.05"
KQs,"52","67.31","$5.52","0.11","1.33","18","50.00","88.46","62.50","75.00","92.00","8.33","55.00","63.64"
KQo,"146","58.90","$5.29","0.04","0.45","53","66.67","91.10","52.88","64.38","85.51","20.83","40.38","57.14"
KJs,"63","58.73","$0.14","0.00","0.03","25","50.00","95.24","51.02","73.02","85.29","20.00","46.94","52.17"
KJo,"171","48.54","-$4.80","-0.03","-0.35","61","46.67","86.55","45.76","61.40","82.11","30.43","38.14","44.44"
KTs,"54","55.56","$1.65","0.03","0.38","19","66.67","88.89","57.78","53.70","75.00","18.18","28.89","30.77"
KTo,"155","29.68","$0.46","0.00","0.04","64","20.00","63.23","36.26","35.48","50.72","40.00","27.47","52.00"
K9s,"56","39.29","$1.34","0.02","0.30","22","16.67","73.21","47.22","32.14","50.00","58.33","22.22","75.00"
K9o,"145","20.69","$1.72","0.01","0.15","53","0.00","32.41","48.98","13.79","19.74","65.00","30.61","73.33"
K8s,"49","36.73","-$0.57","-0.01","-0.15","15","37.50","59.18","42.31","30.61","52.38","44.44","34.62","33.33"
K8o,"156","15.38","-$1.75","-0.01","-0.14","62","5.56","21.79","35.90","9.62","18.46","42.31","30.77","66.67"
K7s,"47","23.40","-$0.84","-0.02","-0.22","22","0.00","51.06","40.00","21.28","33.33","62.50","15.00","66.67"
K7o,"169","8.88","-$4.13","-0.02","-0.31","86","6.67","11.83","31.43","4.73","10.29","24.00","25.71","55.56"
K6s,"55","36.36","$1.41","0.03","0.32","24","0.00","36.36","69.57","18.18","40.91","66.67","47.83","63.64"
K6o,"163","7.98","-$3.48","-0.02","-0.27","76","0.00","10.43","26.67","4.29","10.29","13.79","20.00","50.00"
K5s,"46","19.57","-$2.17","-0.05","-0.59","20","0.00","36.96","35.00","13.04","26.32","66.67","25.00","40.00"
K5o,"167","8.98","-$2.28","-0.01","-0.17","67","0.00","7.19","47.37","2.99","6.58","13.33","36.84","57.14"
K4s,"48","18.75","-$0.65","-0.01","-0.17","19","0.00","43.75","30.43","10.42","10.00","50.00","30.43","57.14"
K4o,"200","10.00","-$3.33","-0.02","-0.21","89","0.00","7.00","42.86","2.50","3.90","12.82","28.57","40.00"
K3s,"69","20.29","-$1.91","-0.03","-0.35","23","0.00","46.38","30.77","13.04","25.00","70.59","15.38","75.00"
K3o,"160","5.63","-$1.83","-0.01","-0.14","67","0.00","5.00","20.00","1.25","2.82","13.33","25.00","20.00"
K2s,"44","13.64","-$0.18","-0.00","-0.05","17","16.67","31.82","28.57","4.55","11.11","87.50","28.57","50.00"
K2o,"172","5.81","-$1.26","-0.01","-0.09","69","0.00","4.07","37.50","1.16","2.74","12.12","31.25","60.00"
QQ,"91","85.71","$22.62","0.25","3.11","41","14.29","95.60","78.33","89.01","97.78","9.09","70.00","76.19"
QJs,"34","52.94","$0.81","0.02","0.30","12","50.00","82.35","47.37","55.88","78.57","0.00","42.11","50.00"
QJo,"171","46.78","$3.44","0.02","0.25","77","56.25","83.04","47.58","51.46","76.56","39.02","29.03","50.00"
QTs,"55","56.36","$1.82","0.03","0.41","32","66.67","76.36","53.33","41.82","66.67","16.67","48.89","54.55"
QTo,"157","31.21","-$2.63","-0.02","-0.21","61","21.43","70.06","40.45","31.85","52.00","66.67","32.58","37.93"
Q9s,"47","29.79","$0.30","0.01","0.08","23","20.00","42.55","50.00","17.02","22.22","0.00","18.18","75.00"
Q9o,"182","16.48","-$2.96","-0.02","-0.20","77","18.18","30.22","34.38","10.44","12.64","41.67","25.00","56.25"
Q8s,"65","30.77","$1.45","0.02","0.28","29","0.00","53.85","37.50","24.62","46.43","90.00","18.75","66.67"
Q8o,"145","12.41","-$1.79","-0.01","-0.15","68","0.00","18.62","42.86","6.21","6.78","29.17","31.43","36.36"
Q7s,"43","25.58","-$0.79","-0.02","-0.23","20","20.00","53.49","39.13","18.60","28.57","63.64","30.43","42.86"
Q7o,"167","9.58","-$2.14","-0.01","-0.16","79","0.00","8.98","32.43","3.59","7.46","8.33","37.84","42.86"
Q6s,"41","21.95","$0.49","0.01","0.15","26","50.00","31.71","50.00","4.88","6.67","50.00","31.25","40.00"
Q6o,"157","8.92","$0.00","0.00","0.00","61","4.76","8.92","38.46","2.55","3.17","25.00","34.62","66.67"
Q5s,"43","6.98","-$2.14","-0.05","-0.62","18","0.00","34.88","17.65","9.30","17.65","60.00","23.53","25.00"
Q5o,"157","6.37","-$2.04","-0.01","-0.16","72","0.00","3.18","21.74","0.00","0.00","17.39","13.04","66.67"
Q4s,"55","16.36","-$0.99","-0.02","-0.23","20","0.00","40.00","36.36","9.09","17.24","50.00","9.09","50.00"
Q4o,"190","6.32","-$1.91","-0.01","-0.13","82","0.00","4.21","41.67","2.63","4.65","4.00","25.00","50.00"
Q3s,"58","27.59","$0.40","0.01","0.09","25","0.00","36.21","52.94","10.34","24.00","58.33","35.29","50.00"
Q3o,"151","8.61","-$0.99","-0.01","-0.08","62","0.00","3.31","31.58","0.66","1.39","9.52","31.58","50.00"
Q2s,"66","12.12","$0.41","0.01","0.08","29","11.11","21.21","37.50","6.06","11.11","62.50","25.00","50.00"
Q2o,"153","3.27","$0.42","0.00","0.03","65","0.00","3.27","17.65","0.65","0.00","12.50","23.53","75.00"
JJ,"95","74.74","$8.79","0.09","1.16","34","0.00","97.89","63.08","95.79","97.96","0.00","64.62","59.52"
JTs,"51","50.98","$0.11","0.00","0.03","20","60.00","80.39","55.56","39.22","68.18","75.00","41.67","46.67"
Где это виданно чтоб "ракеты" АА так играли.Всегда рейз или олень на них.Ну и посмотри на их шоудаун!
Для нл 10 бери неменее 1000ББ,если ты такой "лаковый".Рано или позно твои доезды закончатся,и ты начьнёшь сливать.
Чего тебе и желаю!

Респект фишам,они нас кормят))

Nitik, может лучше такую подпись сделать:
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Респект фишам

Nitik, все хорошо, но я вот только не понял: ты че сказать то хотел?

Неожиданно обнаружил себя участником гонки: GoPlay Regulyar Sprint Race. Да еще и на третьем месте.
Придется соответствовать.

Believe_Me:Nitik, все хорошо, но я вот только не понял: ты че сказать то хотел?

Только то что сказал.Ап фишовый кончится,тут с нормальной картой в даун попадаешь ,а тёрн советую не тяни фишара на конт бет(он начнет тебя подводить)и нажимать на кассу будешь для дэпа а не для кеш аута.

Ну да, отыгрываться на более выскоких лимитах это -EV

Nitik, япона ж мать, а знаки препинания ставить пробовал?

unspeak, а ты пытаешься еще и прочесть

preydi16, каюсь, бес попутал.

Holdem Manager vs Poker Tracker
Я тут как то жаловался, что на моем Атлоне 3000+ 5 столов ГоПлея c Poker Tracker идут с трудом. Так вот спешу сообщить, что после перехода на Holdem Manager, 6 столов - без проблем. Получается он много легче. Я думаю для владельцем старых компьютеров и ноутбуков - это весомый плюс при выборе программы статистики.

Nitik:Ап фишовый кончится,тут с нормальной картой в даун попадаешь

Походу ты как пишешь, так и читаешь. Или может просто издеваешься?
Я какбе за конец фераля-начало марта залил пол банкрола, линия ЕВ упала ниже плинтуса (график на этой странице выше). И если как ты говоришь это был АП, то мне п**дец.

Даунсвинг кончился! Вот так, не побоявшись сглазить.
За пару дней +70. И сразу все прекрасно: овепары не переезжают, сеты оплачивают, кулера в мою сторону. Подольше бы так.
Только нл50 выбивается из общей картины благополучия - качели. Но мне там нравится, всегда открываю один столик для драйва. Не могу теперь без него: накал борьбы, агрессия, перезвон железных яиц. Тут даже рыбанько другое: наглое, пихающее, ничего не боящееся.
Да и играть на нл20 становится как то попроще.

+70 БИ?

xct:+70 БИ?

эх если бы... +7БИ